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" I'm usually at this point that Tuesday at 5 o'clock we just say are right. Bears Falcons what it -- mean what did you see that maybe we didn't Tim what do you think."

" Well I'm not sure that I saw anything that you guys didn't. It was pretty much as I XX has not sure it was not as expected expected the Falcons to beat the Bears I didn't expect the bears' defense to acquit itself as well as it did. We knew that the offense might make a few big plays and keep them in the game and that's kind of what happened but at the end of the day. I guess I saw some things. A little differently than some folks around town because I keep hearing now that there is let it get away and shot themselves in the foot gave it away and that's really matches the better team won the and then what's a little disturbing to me right now. He is dead rather than just worrying about Orlando Pace the entire offensive line to start -- little suspect and -- roughly pace probably had his best game of the year until that last drive than those two unfortunate mistake self. You know you really have to come away a little worried about with the rest of the season starts to look like now."

" You know obviously Harrison because we didn't get much agreement yesterday and effective about a team will -- today I was saying that because I I just am wondering that they keep asking. I only games you think there's Spears teams can win having a two really expected them to win every game because they're playing at at least nearly impossible to win that game."

" You know I. I at this time of the year I figured 115 or ten and six. I looked down the road now on I think ten wins are going to be pretty tough particularly the way they're playing. Offensively any injuries on defense and number as far as -- better team won Hernandez. The Falcons didn't play anywhere near their best game. And yet found a way to win that football game the Bears didn't play their best game either. But the Falcons are capable of so much more I look at what the Bears have got right now. And I'm not sure how much more they're capable of you know one of the -- concerned about. This whole Gaines Adams trade is kind of fast thing commandment came down right after we last visited last week. He you know he -- you can argue okay you give up what is probably going to be a middle to late second round pick. For a young man who was the fourth overall players went to the draft two years three drafts ago so you're thinking you're getting pretty good value. I -- and you got a guy who's got a 37 game NFL career under his belt out two plus seasons. He is average and six sacks a season which is not what you want from your right -- the number four pick overall in the draft. The end the end three of the five games he played in Tampa this year he had one tackle Warren -- you know self this is a guy who well into his third season doesn't seem to get it. Obviously the Bears are counting on Rod Marinelli being able to develop London and there are some who believe in that. But what I'm looking at is not you look in the next year without your first or second round draft choice. You clearly have to start rebuild in this offensive line you clearly are not good enough to wide receiver or in the secondary. And your start looked awfully mediocre it and running back. And we still haven't got no one of our favorite subjects the wide receivers so. You know I had. I just don't see the planned for this team I don't see how people think that this team. Is either -- contender right now or is going to become a contender."

" People do that I I guess we're -- to Philly do EI would ordinarily I would say that there's nothing you said that was wrong. Bucks in this league it it just seems like things happen that I know what they'll could happen I mean if if if maybe you can find it. -- an offensive lineman. Free agency -- I don't know what you do but it just seems like it happened some time but I agree there's a lot of work to be done."

" Here you know where I wanna say -- they're clearly a playoff contender right now I mean they got a shot and a well -- not catch the Vikings at this point and anywhere near as good as the Vikings but. I mean Super Bowl contender -- had only going to be everybody's a playoff contender that's kind of meaningless. But as far as this team I mean I look I watched the New Orleans Saints this weekend I watched the Minnesota Vikings this weekend we didn't get to see the Colts but I've seen plenty of them. And that's the top tier than the next group by seeing the New York Giants at this point you gotta include the Denver Broncos in this group too. The end and and you match personnel you match units you look at where the Bears are at. They don't belong with those teams you know than. And they're not ready to play with those teams and and they don't now have the resources to to add parts to to get to where those teams are so. Full disconcerting to me where there right now."

" Rod Marinelli is vaunted rush -- didn't generate. Any anything and I know that that is a solid offensive line is two years in a row now against Matt Ryan you barely even -- he passes no sex but for all the -- for all the sunset and all the excitement over what the defense of wind is done all of sudden we've gone for Mark Anderson being a revelation to Mark Anderson being a disappointment in just a couple of games. When do we seen the front four or succeed on their own with out. Coming free because of a blitzer you know he did that to me we've certainly it's an exact numbers. It's funny you say well you know Ogunleye got the -- brown got the sack of one of the tackles did that was that because. A blocker had to make a decision -- the Bears are sending extra I wanna see the front four. Itself do the job."

" You know. I think it's up playing yeah we have to have knowledge that the only player -- defense of line who is or was an exceptional talent. His Tommie Harris and he's not anymore. You know while it live the one year in Miami he's never been special other than that. Alex Brown I think is a great all around defensive and I think he's a bit underrated -- at this point in his career. The best series ever had a six and a half sacks so easy you know I can get exceptional pass rush from him. This perception that because Rod Marinelli is here suddenly all these guys are better again that's not reality I mean you know you -- have better football players now. He may be able to do so neat things with. Gaines Adams with Marcus Harrison was Jarron Gilbert those are three players who have great physical ability and our great prospects who certainly aren't. Maxed out yet will be very -- to see what he can do with them but he idea that he suddenly gonna make these 567 year veterans better -- just never. Ring true to me and ahead at least five games and there's six games and it's not happening so about life hell would you would you or would you -- give -- the Gaines Adams -- You know until I don't know I. I I'm I'm not gonna second guess mind that when you got a great prospect I I don't know all the things went wrong in Tampa Bay in my in my understanding for the people I talk to. Is that the kid really is unique physical talent that's upstairs with a problem isn't and Rod Marinelli. Does have a reputation as a guy who can take guys who won't be home for whatever reason. Whether it's concentration or attitude or work ethic those are things you can't coach and -- you know. It's worth the risque where I don't wanna -- though for -- one more time on the smack somebody I wanna hear. It's stupid that Jerry did because he's finally acknowledged he can't you know make good draft picks anyway. Because when I hear that then I just -- fault but the ten guys -- running your football team himself. You know if part of this deal is that there -- acknowledging that they don't do well high in the draft anyway. They need to replace those people you know you don't just get rid of the draft picks so I don't think Jerry believes I don't -- that's why don't I was real."

" Gives risk in value is valued just because you move one of those picks it into the risk comes with it because you've traded it. Other than the risk level is 'cause that's when they have these charged to say well what's the value what's the determination here you're still on the hook for four what you for the move that you may."

" Exactly and I think the key to Gaines Adams guys that you've got a good look -- yeah if you looks more like -- power forward -- small forward and the problem small forward he's 65 -- you've got to get him in -- well I was talking more about the ball carrying on me. He's he's good he worries truly. And and I've never seen a great pass rushing defensive end look like that -- self -- and -- curse -- all -- is huge through the arms you and the guns he's ripped through the chest this kid is is skinny. And so. I think it's a combination of working on his head and get them in the weight room and self. I think it's unrealistic to assume you're gonna get much out of him this year you know hopefully get competition and then fresh legs and maybe gets a couple sacks but the real test for him. Is going to be if rusty Jones and Rod Marinelli can double team moment and really. -- not put weight on so much is put muscle on the end and then to to get the attitude fixed in India and teaching some moves -- sitting -- in Tampa. Is that everything with him was a speed rush that that he really doesn't have any moves and so there's a lot of work to be done about I don't know. Have a big problem with the trade because he he did get. Exceptional value my my bigger concern. Is that I think that there are other areas of of equal or greater need now you don't have a high draft choices to address those areas."

" We're the ability to how we haven't ascended and my guess disappointed would be the right word for me and and most Bears fans when you watched. The no huddle Atlanta offense completely befuddled the Bears is if well I don't know where this came from but we don't have discovered I mean the touchdown was inexcusable that there's no excuse for that. You have three guys -- why you have two guys covering them nobody gets a timeout you get burned on the play and an obvious thing. And in love he was I don't know what he was thinking at two weeks to prepare. Was he not aware that a little."

" Where does this. While I I think he was and he you know he probably wanted Knicks as what true players under the bus that came out and think yeah I mean they have the right people out there at the right call. Somebody said that they were gonna cover zero on the -- the Bulls they no -- campaign blew the current Pritchett Kevin Payne should not be on the football field when to when safeties have to give deep help not there wasn't deepening. You they were in the red zone but still he just -- and Milan go to the -- on you cannot do that. He ends so. You know yeah I don't think it was that the coach is more prepared countless amounts. I still argue that Dave -- is the best special teams coach in the NFL and I have never. Seen in the Lovie Smith Dave tub area the special teams get beat up the way they did on Sunday I mean. You know forget -- big kick return that's gonna happen every once while the twelve guys on the field. I still can't I. A keeping that Czech tennis and forgive me for not having done it it was two plays after a piece routinely -- came off the field again now I don't know if he is. The punt return team but if he is the only explanation I can come up with. Is that two different guys thought they were supposed to go out there for him because -- because there was some confusion with him on and the trainers best short of that. I just -- that's unfathomable to -- the X."

" Elation I hurt you had to -- It is because I don't mind you guys are defensive did after that he was out there that he wasn't out there in there must've been two guys oh I'm so zero in years they deserve -- what else -- all routine that -- in the game."

" That was -- get because I'll tell you what took you a smile that was generate there was other trainers table. He was trying everything he could get off to get back on the field he got off he took one step in the and then he just buckled underneath them. And so it was the only reasonable explanation I can think of that those are mistakes with his -- team just doesn't make."

" husband who will we come back from a big brief break when -- get to this idea of the offensive line and looking -- the reality of the situation and did not necessarily in next -- year after that but looking at right now. This year these guys and how that affects Ron Turner and Jay Cutler. That's coming up with Hub Arkush we talked to him Tuesdays and Wednesdays at 5 o'clock he is the Bears. And NFL expert Andy publisher of pro football weekly you're listening to score. --"

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" First I do we know the Bears are gonna pay lip service -- the idea of well will get better to have the blocking wasn't very -- will get better at it will get very get off the bus running will hear all that stuff but I think when they actually sit down and watch the film any smart coach -- Bulls say in their meetings. You know maybe we're just not really all that. Good at blocking if that's the case how do you game plan -- or the you can say he can't block -- screen him and may be every once awhile you catch a minute in the right. Formation and you hit him with a screen that works but really if you're just not that good run blocking you don't really trust seven step drop pass protection."

" What now. Well there is no other choice of."

" they mediocre or bad offensive line and the one thing you can do is say okay. Well we're all 300 pounders who can bench press a whole bunch so let's not even pretend we're gonna pass protect let's discuss trade does grind it out. And that's usually the formula to get an offensive line and -- get them going. The Bears wanna do a lot of that Sunday night they weren't able to you know I think what really was concerning to me is that all of -- is one of my favorite Chicago Bears of all time and and I thought was playing really well the the first four weeks of the season. He would have a great game Sunday night Frankel meals terrible yeah I -- off sure yeah. -- he he's he's a wonderful prospect he's got the size that you want not the triangle numbers. Get him out put Josh beaten back in because while Josh speak -- doesn't look like he can't be good enough he was better last year than Frankel meal has been so far this year. But I guess the real kind of scary part of at all is that. It is true that the offensive line of all the units on the field requires the most timing the most teamwork they need to get comfortable any chemistry. But they were here prior to the draft they did the free agent signings early so they had a full no offseason of OTAs they had a full training camp. They've played four games TO they got the bye weekend now they've played a fifth game. It don't figure to get much better coming back I think to suggest it's timing and familiarity at this point. That's a bit of a cop out and and self. Other than even committing more to running the football and being willing to eat some three and outs and then they ask your defense to. To cover -- until you get some momentum on the ground I'm not sure what more they can do."

" I'm not really sure -- like for example and I mentioned the Chargers offensive line is any better either -- are running the same plays the Bears runs or more a ladies and I plays -- the same thing that made you watch with the Broncos do on that line. It's unbelievable Kyle Orton could sit back there in order pizza. They've got it did you with with the Falcons are doing I -- and soul. Envious of that as a very good butler and so envious of the ability you know that the Cutler is. Is is it looks like everything is is a slight lead. Her read your reaction just a little. You know he's still can make some woman really throws you know I don't discriminate Phillips just may be -- percent too fast you know."

" Understand though that the Denver Broncos have two of the best young tackles in the NFL me. It does usually come back to talent at some point. The Falcons they're nuts specials -- affects Sam baker. Get yanked out of the game at one point the second half Sunday -- their first round pick from the Chris Williams draft self. You know I think with something they just got better talent. In the case of the Bears -- and their old I mean Orlando Pace is in his mid thirties he owns in his mid thirties and they Cabrera Garza who was horrible -- then I think he's 3132. -- O'Neill Williams aren't old obviously but. You certainly aren't gonna get any better at a Kevin Shaffer at tackle so. But the one movie you can make as you go back to Josh speak minute guard you can give him a shot because they were better with him and -- your. But I feel everything in all fairness in and I worried about this all during the off season. Matt Forte isn't special either -- And you know he's a nice running back. But that's really all you loose in. And end and you've got nothing behind him -- Kevin Jones injury in the pre season really hurt. So I don't think there's any you know ready answers about the pop out with their running game."

" No -- at least to what we started the conversation -- about the fact that there's so much work to do -- his team -- those. You know some teams usually draft so very well as you point don't they do get guys that are gonna bid to become ten -- staples on the offensive line. In it and jury is always been pretty good job of fighting to free agent offensive lineman who can help them. -- built a pretty decent mind doing that but there's oil each did you still think he can get better. Well I don't know on the other double there there there's a reason he never got in the lineup in Atlanta and Carolina in on the did play some last year and in the -- need to do an injury. But he's just been colossal disappointment that I expected to be a much better but there're couple plays -- and it was more pass protection run blocking. He just fell back home. He just tried to fall within that the rusher is Webb -- missed them you know and and who's kind of sad to watch. I had this it is not an NFL play. So I don't -- blame Jay Cutler he feels like somebody's always gonna dig his head off I mean I could see why every game would you I think I agree I think he's just a beat too fast it's too. If everything is just like did just that much off and there's only. One source to blame not on the first drive the first drive W -- was -- that that rhythm that he threw that stupid picked right let me let you had a really asked not that's the way the run turner offense is supposed to look on the first drive bing -- is hurting he's got a real good rhythm."

" Why and and they did that a couple times in the second half to now and then another one ended with -- on the unfortunate pick and and then the last tracked the other guys using others think that we're not talking about it at some point. You do have to take some pressure off the offensive line with the big plays with the passing game with the guys who scary when they've got to back off and they can't you know crowd the line yeah. And Devin Hester. And I I'm sure people are gonna suggest that he had a good game Sunday night. He's not a wide receiver and this is not just me saying this at this point -- broadcast partisans Westwood broadcaster James Lofton. He learned a little bit about the position Venezuela all fan and we were -- a -- this Sunday and any. Description he said he -- Devin Hester. He can almost hear him counting the steps as he gets into his break probably -- almost equally out loud you actually hearing yeah he said he believes that he can just feel him. Feeling his way around the football field he has not instinctive football player he is not a natural receiver and that's three years into this plan. Junior I think the bottom and I thought I saw that on the field but I -- Lofton to verify informant. You know big play in the big drive that that got him past midfield on the last drive so quickly what was about a twenty form -- the 32 yard reception that he had. We settled down in the zone he turned around he got about fifteen yards and Romo after -- right. The first move was brilliant the second move if he doesn't make it he splits the scene he's in the end zone. There was no reason for that second move that just took on the sidelines will take him out of sight if he just went at that point if he had do you -- sport. They didn't score would have been tied with a minute fifty left and who knows what happens I'll just -- go to single wide -- had. Have that instinct when he's returning a kick he doesn't have that is think what is the ball in the open field and I don't know what -- was doing instincts are I I carry I can't tell it's just feel I think because in the open -- jailbreak he's not even thinking he's just going. Whereas in this case now he's identified the one or two guys he has to beat -- many over -- and these are guys. Who are almost as quick as him and and so if you if you don't make the right choice you're going to be in trouble. Haven't Hester is it is only wonderful weapon to have on your football team but if you're counting on him to be your number one receiver you're in big trouble."

" Little more would -- after quick update."

" Start being brought you -- four seasons heating and -- Hey your conditioning as well he's doing -- we are breaking down the Bears games -- everybody on our vision. Really how about I mean I don't know how you you know if his blinders off into the wind is. Q can you give body with a mediocre Q can we aspire to mediocre because right now I don't even have amid mediocre. Well I I think they can be mediocre I mean again I thought pace played his best game until the fourth quarter -- he just got tired or -- concentration amend for all famine that shouldn't happen. I think on crystal plays at a very high level I think he was playing very well until Sunday and I think he just -- trying to clinker. Chris Williams is start -- look real mediocre to me who we which may be okay there's lot of guys who have the tenure mediocre careers in the NFL right tackle. And -- okay so so the bottom line. He is if pace. Has one more -- he if he can you know play. Good 8090%. Of the time if all one can still -- that line and if you make the move which I think you have to do you give beat finish out. Yeah yeah he may be able to be mediocre idea. I don't want to install sound -- gloom and doom I'll I was just very frustrated last Giambi I mean you don't like we're doing what should offensive line you just. You expect it there's just nothing there there's nothing they say to myself all year now. If it should say enough I don't know how much of it is them how much of his Matt Forte all it was a rescue one guy to do way too much."

" But again Matt Forte is not special he's not a guy who just needs a crease he needs all you know he ends up they gotta open them on a regular basis but I. I've got this sneaking suspicion that they're gonna find a way to win in Cincinnati on Sunday. And then you get a cupcake coming in here in Cleveland and so if that happens suddenly. You know your -- candidate five in two. So and they're they're still wild -- no question about that. But but I just I I was hoping at this point that that that he still has some magic enemy you know and that forte was more like though the running back we saw last year. The end and I think you guys know I've never been that excited about. About Hester but you see now when does Clark is healthy it makes Greg Olsen that are any and I do think Johnny Nash is going to be pretty good only he's going to be great. And cover cover special -- so we're seeing it and even with a two to two picks Sunday night. He's the only reason they were in -- football campaign and and defensively I was impressed I didn't think that they. Get enough pressure on Matt Ryan and then they're not you're creating enough pass rush. But I thought as a unit that did that they've played pretty well if you told me that they were gonna hold the Falcons a 21 points on the that I would have expected they're gonna win that game."

" early look at the Bengals Chad Ochocinco Carson Palmer Cedric Benson but an injury to their defensive line."

" Well the loss of Antwan Odom is huge it is not as big as some would think he was. Leading -- the league in sacks going into Sunday with eight that he did get final in the one game against the Green Bay Packers selfless and Alan Gerber yeah it was said and so you got to kind of put an gastric by either the league leading -- but he. He was their best pass rusher and it is a big loss for them -- Think whether tackles went down as well so. To -- probably played -- was a good idea -- were. I yeah I can't I think you're right guys they only to see a guy -- will be questionable and it wasn't. If not -- guys -- replaced by to meet the story this game guys. Is Cedric Benson the -- electron to Cedric Benson for what he's given them so far and you know what he's gonna wanna do on Sunday. Now if that offensive line in his teammates wanted to do it for him and with him. Then the Bears could be in trouble but but I don't think Cedric Benson is special either and so it's not like that's something that the Bears can't handle. And Carson Palmer has struggled a little bit he said the same problems Cutler he's -- good -- in the end streaks but he's thrown too many picks and and you saw the vandals were very pedestrian on Sunday so. It's a winnable game. You know he if Roddy White didn't beat you by himself there's no reason to believe that Chad Ochocinco will not again. I am a little surprise to Chris Henry isn't doing more than he is the Caldwell kit is has become their number two receiver. If they get all three of those guys against the Bears secondary and they decided to -- and trying to commit to the run. Then you can see some big plays in the Bears could get in trouble. But but the Bengals no defense is is really just devers are pretty good on the corners with Jonathan Joseph and Leon hall and with the Bears challenges -- wide receiver. It's going to be tough but they don't have good matchups for the Titans and and so I I think -- you know it's a toss up to me I really can't. -- All right -- we will visit -- you tomorrow when the kids can have you he is all yours at 5 o'clock. I guys have give that thanks hope."

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