" We'll have good enough. -- the baseball information as we always have been doing on Fridays at 2 o'clock. Steve Stone joins us I'm sure he's gone and Arizona -- enjoying the weather on yet another miserably rainy day in Chicago Estonia --"
" Good Gary how are you -- I'm here I'm only half a hug and information. I don't know the Cubs in the morning you. They do and I've appreciated about and the deal got done there was to -- after years in the making or so and this is -- day when you can finally put to rest affected so they'll be some. I don't sample here in the bankruptcy court order. Baseball oddity that will pop open now. I'm -- and the Stanley. Joe rickets owns the Chicago Cubs and I think that's so much for the best."
" So this is a good day for Cubs fans."
" I don't either I -- they -- I don't. I don't doubt for a minute that. Tribune Co. had had a great deal of money especially since 2003. The Chicago Cubs putting to rest forever hopefully. That. -- excuse -- they didn't spend enough money which is why they didn't win. And effective the patient had a great deal of money from two concentration that are obligated this particular. A group of Chicago Cubs this. Players. The organization and the fans. To. -- in the neighborhood of a billion dollars and the 2003. Spent a lot of money and again that was all -- and of course now it some of the obligation that goes over to the rickets but it was. At least try and under the auspices of the Tribune Co. so they spent enough money just in many areas they didn't spend it as lively as they could have."
" Well you don't have shared similar to wash it good good Thomas talk about the fact that we will visit it was about 330. The value of developing a farm system which we've heard before and unit sales at the same thing and it didn't work out well. But it seems to need today's baseball was so many teams not having money all of -- a lot of lot of trouble with a smaller market teams. Then that's more important than ever you have to draft right you have to develop its not like this is some baseball mystery of the ages. Everybody would like to do exactly what's armor is is talking about right."
" Well I remember back in 1994. When Andy Macphail was happy that none of the Q 'cause of the Minnesota Twins. Look into this organization need then brought in Jim Hendry and more confident saying that they were organizational development guys and that was priority number one. We were gonna develop. An organization that will consistently feed -- Majorly. He'll be interest of the notes that thirteen of the guys that are currently playing toward the New York Yankees done this 25 man postseason roster. Or develop by the Yankees yet they spend more money than anybody but they realize that developing their own as the best way to do it. Thank god have been trying to do that I just don't think that they have. That's similar attendance does scouting director who retired I think five years ago is doing a really good job -- trying to play catch up. But for a long time it was an afterthought this idea of scouting and player development it just didn't work. When it doesn't work you have to go -- you have to pay gigantic sums of money for other people scouting and development and that led to. 140 million dollar payroll that was such a disappointment this year. If you're out of your system from your minor league you can take up two or three different -- at them."
" Would cause you normally I would -- 136 million dollars for a left fielder -- and maybe you have won your system will -- due to a minimum. And so when you do that and you do battle -- actually you can Palin was selected free agent."
" I will hope. And I think that I'm Rick that you realize the only way to keep costs down he is too."
" I spend a little more money in scouting and player development."
" Maybe allocate another three or four million dollars in bad area to debut another fifteen million dollars in the major leagues. If they actually gave me a lot of good will come out of this transition period."
" Give one of the things that Terry brought up earlier it is from it it philosophically that makes all the sense in the world but but practically. You're in your World Series window right now with the with. Highly paid veterans with a multi year guaranteed escalating contracts in no trade clause so while that sounds great and I'm sure that it's absolutely true. How does that help them win the World Series now."
" They've given -- don't win the World Series didn't intend. Because quite obviously if your system are lagging behind and there's a couple of guys who you might see at the end of next year you might -- Stalin Castro at the end of next year."
" Meaning they seem to think -- and -- cashmere it is going to be a starting pitcher abuse and -- the bullpen guy and I think that's probably where he's going to be."
" Trojans -- is concerned he's another guy that -- a great deal of money and Apatow hoping can be a number of high standard because. I certainly help but this year I believe again eventually out of the bullpen but. You know maybe he'll be a starter I don't know I. But you're right you are stuck with a lot of long term contracts. But you're you're also in a situation where you can move some of the guys they might not get in return who you want. But it is still going to be a good enough team out one of the biggest breaks they could've caught that didn't was little Russa and Duncan. Joined by. Mark McGwire and the rest of the coaching staff host Saint Louis and gonna stay and play."
" And they got themselves a terrific hitting coach. But and there have been a lot of defections and the coaching staff of Saint Louis."
" That might have been a problem. If Milwaukee -- jags suddenly that they're gonna take two years of increased -- Attendance and a great deal of money into their coffers and I don't have much needed help deadline up."
" Well then they might be you know in contention also. I don't know that's gonna happen."
" Well they permit Eric Peterson they're gonna do that Sony did did date you know de -- promised repeated a good job. I'm gonna spend the money to make this the starting pitching staff better for you remember earlier in the season when Ryan Bronson them we can't really do anything until we get better there -- was all over. But what are you talking about shut up would play because they had. So obvious."
" did he well it's clearly the obvious good baseball people for quite sometime -- I think the most surprising thing was. The year that they actually make the big run in and wound up in the playoffs -- getting CC sabathia. They have 44 sellout and grew over three million people. -- style and give it tremendous -- as they probably the biggest a lot of revenue that they've had and I can't remember how long. My eight allowing Michael -- over about a 150000. Dollars a year to go to Texas. Which really helped cut texas' pitching staff and we know what it did to Milwaukee's pitching staff I can't understand when you make."
" They kind of money that's being made that year."
" And you pay I think they've paid 230 million dollars for that team."
" How you can allow -- particular pitching staff to go into the championships either -- I think you're actually going to compete. There was really no chance to do that in that was still illustrated."
" Graphically. By the fact that their pitchers get pummeled I don't know we've seen that pitching can do -- I think they've got to have pretty good pitching coming into next year."
" And will they have a lot of money at the end of the red -- you're gonna ask I'm about -- gonna tell you that they're not understand. Probably any more than 740 million dollar thresholds I don't think that they can't. -- are gonna have to spend money I believe they get rid of Milton Bradley. "
" They do have a lot of obligation leadership open a couple of their players come back and play up to their capabilities will help -- but one other thing and this is a critical importance. We've seen the shoulder."
" Ramirez."
" Opt out a couple of different times in the last oh I don't know three or four years and when those ligaments stretch we don't really come back."
" If he gets hurt again that's a tremendous luck because Ramirez delivered clutch hitter either dedicated injury news release."
" Smith they can afford to lose out of all the players on this team. And so it if -- around his shoulders that's great that's going to be a big problem for them."
" Our reviewer Tom rickets would you if maintain. It that it intermediate level of they've -- the executive in between GM and owner or would you simply bring in a baseball person whether or not. If that baseball person wants to be GM that's kind of as a hired Jim that's fine. I don't see any purpose for crane Kenney to continue doing whatever it is he does or anybody else for that matter if it is that the the way you look at other baseball teams now is your reason for him to retain crane Kenney."
" Yes the three year contract guaranteed. Bit that was agreed to do and there was three ownership groups who have. So Craig -- around he's not going anywhere Jim Hendry is going to be around and again I -- I really believe that he deserves to be an -- these guys get along time ago. I'm. I think it's going to be around. I don't think you come in and fire anybody. I think you come in and there. I think if anything you've had a couple of voices on the baseball site may be just one maybe two."
" Billboard debut at different viewpoint there in great shape that is that they've got an open check book policy."
" And they've had the same voices I mean they're going to be down here at the beginning of November they're gonna take a look around that I'm spring location areas here. And the impact by the way if they lose the job done a cactus league at 52 and -- half million dollars. I don't think that the technically want to lose the Cubs went -- because you're looking at it but. I thought the brain trust took the job this year I think about a week ago. And you know it's I'm -- baseball people you know Gary -- terrific and his son is being there'll help him get killed when you Randy bush. Guys who have been around they know the organization. It took watchers gunned down here you have Scott Nelson who's been here forever through four administration's. You have a lot of guys give -- will scan done a year a lot of good scouts."
" They are the same guys. We'll put together this team has put it out pretty decent past but have yet to realize what they really want to realize. And they've done that -- open checkbook. Now the check book closes its. Now it's time to bring in a couple other people who say when you go out to -- three years and Milton Bradley hate."
" This might not be a real good idea Theres a reason to --"
" At least you have another voice. As a counterbalance. To the voices who have been there who have gone through a couple of different. Playoff rounds and not won a game."
" You know when you do that they aren't you argue building to be inevitable conflicts. And and and these fractious front offices that. Did you keep paralyze themselves and if so why not be more decisive and that. They say oh well that's rickets is -- that's the guy from this prevents them from anchor begin all kinds infighting would be smarter just supporting your guy in your vision."
" No I don't think I think that can't can't do that now because I think you've got to sit back I think you have to wait rather -- most good business people would -- I don't think it becomes -- I think it becomes impractical. I truly believe I have always believed. Bet if you surround yourself with the best baseball minds that are out there. And available to you how -- good can come of it."
" Corrections front offices. There's disagreement and every front office at the end of the day. The recommendation that Jim Hendry is going to make you to -- rickets is now we're going to do this."
" Then you -- that the united front the whole organization present a united front."
" But behind closed doors when you have a conversation. You do need to have different voices probably change some different things so that. You don't windup -- the situation that they find themselves in now."
" I understand that they wanted to make the product looked better understand the reason for eight years for Soriano. It was just a terrible -- But the clutch double position for five more years -- gigantic money that you could use particular standard run producer. Handles. You know I think that you really have they have a couple of."
" A couple 12. Maybe different voice is not anybody these guys."
" But just again a counterbalance to -- has been there previously."
" I Stoney we will let you know enjoy the rest of the day it's got to be better. Better there than it is here."
" Did much better here than it is there. Do I'll watch the L with a White Sox. The Arizona Fall League games battled out here and campy feel able."
" Thanks -- that Steve Stone these scorers. Baseball expert."